tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23522785.post5907519247634353052..comments2023-09-25T08:07:19.567-07:00Comments on tangocherie in Los Angeles: The Circle of Tangotangocheriehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10012220622641996877noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23522785.post-76789978028757311582009-07-21T23:12:25.735-07:002009-07-21T23:12:25.735-07:00I don’t know if it is a circle or just a path. In...I don’t know if it is a circle or just a path. In any case, like everything else, our tango experience transforms itself as we ourselves change.<br />As a beginner (man), I took many classes and workshops taught by anyone who I think will teach me something new. As I got better (intermediate?), I started dancing, and dancing lots, with everyone who was willing. I then become more selective, because I can, and because I became less tolerant of suffering through a whole tanda with a bad partner. Now I dance maybe 50% of the time that I am at a milonga, and often dance multiple times with the same partner. After all, I ‘m there to have a good time. No? Also, I may not dance with someone often, but I always say hi, and chat a little if the time and place allows.<br />Sure, I will try dancing with someone new or from out-of-town, but only if the opportunity presents itself, and her dancing is up to par, for the music being played. I am human after all, and respond to my primal instincts. However, I rather have a nice dance with someone I already know, and who appreciates my dancing, than suffer through a tanda with a (young) new face that wants to be tested on her ganchos and adornos. <br />I don’t complaint if I do not dance, because there’s almost always the music, which I started collecting, and learning about (I speak Spanish). I am also learning about the musicians, the history, the society of the time, etc. <br />Proof-reading what I wrote in the first paragraph, there is definitely an infancy/youth/adulthood/maturity theme running through the descriptions, and that’s what I referred to as the path.<br /><br />SaludosAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23522785.post-80264706702520393312009-07-21T16:10:47.146-07:002009-07-21T16:10:47.146-07:00Cherie you once told me that I would either come b...Cherie you once told me that I would either come back or I wouldnt. Like you I am a trained pro and I wanted to dance it but I didnt have the patience to wait for someone who 'completed' me.<br />Now living in Salta province, I read tango blogs all the time, wishing I had the option to go to a milongaSuzy Vegashttp://www.lasttangoinbuenosaires.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23522785.post-51745299379701894922009-07-18T09:44:15.382-07:002009-07-18T09:44:15.382-07:00Johanna, you are funny.Johanna, you are funny.Elizabeth Brintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13814965814308408209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23522785.post-1326988367360722682009-07-17T14:59:00.976-07:002009-07-17T14:59:00.976-07:00Meh! I quit all the time.Meh! I quit all the time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23522785.post-26945912123116035382009-07-17T14:23:36.208-07:002009-07-17T14:23:36.208-07:00I did receive the survey and found the results, es...I did receive the survey and found the results, especially the comments, to be very interesting. I also sent it on to six friends who have quit tango and asked them to complete it to provide more balance. I believe several of them have done so. Only one of them lives in Portland but they were all good, ten year dancers who had traveled to Buenos Aires. Three of them are men.n a n c ynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23522785.post-87684093041171641422009-07-17T10:56:34.065-07:002009-07-17T10:56:34.065-07:00I suppose there might be a natural cycle, and I ag...I suppose there might be a natural cycle, and I agree that -- in addition to the points brought up in the blogs you referenced -- tango dancers can drop out when they feel like they've hit a plateau and aren't progressing at the rate they used to anymore.<br /><br />I also strongly agree with your observation with regards to selection bias -- if someone has quite tango, as in really quit, they're not likely to fill out a survey on why.<br /><br />Thus, I assume that most people who fill out the survey are those who have hit such a plateau and are grumbling because of whatever is holding them back from the next phase of development. Sometimes it takes a break, sometimes an extended break, to get reignited on the connection.<br /><br />In short, I question what it means to "quit" tango. If you've been absent for 1 month and eventually return, have you quit? How about 3 months? How about 6, or 12?<br /><br />And here are the real toughies -- if you used to dance a lot, and only dance rarely or not at all for some period of time but eventually expect to return more full-force, have you quit? What if you aren't sure if you'll return?<br /><br />The term "quit" just isn't so clear for me ...Henry (@knowtango.com)http://www.knowtango.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23522785.post-20829940077729865802009-07-17T10:20:39.821-07:002009-07-17T10:20:39.821-07:00This topic has been around before - part of your c...This topic has been around before - part of your circle of dance?!<br />Although I might have some issues now and then with venues, leaders, etc, I will never quit. I might take a break and they say that a change is as good as a rest. I no longer whine or complain. It is what it is and if I don't like it I leave. I heard the music many years before I learned to dance and when I was learning it certainly filled a void and made me more confident and even more outgoing than I normally am if that was ever possible. There was some romance, but that was a by product of getting along with someone, not because of how they danced. There was work through friends and lodgers. All because of Tango. There is dissatisfaction with every type of dance form and the people involved with it and is not mutually exclusive to Tango. Situations change, people change. That's life. Does it really matter who stays or goes in Tango? Is knowing really going to change anything? I doubt it. <br />Love the cartoon, very appropriate as that is what my garden looks like right now!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23522785.post-61827528824886328732009-07-17T09:14:56.644-07:002009-07-17T09:14:56.644-07:00Cherie, Thanks for those thoughts, they fill out s...Cherie, Thanks for those thoughts, they fill out some of those unspoken and maybe even unconcious reasons for the move away from the tango, and then from the writing about it too. <br />(I think there is something odd about the survey. The people must have quit recently or not quit yet in order to still be on the mailing list? Reading the comments at the end of the survey..they all sound like the same neurotic person. )<br /><br />There is something really sad about watching some of it...little girls dance dreams played out by older women, fear of rejection etc. Does tango make people confront their personal demons? <br />Writing too, blogging or otherwise, requires some deeper and more open hearted exposure, (risk?) Maybe people just don't realize what they are getting themselves into with things. They may as well play it safe then if that is what they need. Not you though, I dare say, and not me.Elizabeth Brintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13814965814308408209noreply@blogger.com